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I have discussed these problems in Rønnow-Rasmussen, Recension av Stephen Darwalls Welfare and Rational Care. For instance, one concerns the fact the analysis seems to give us something more than an analysis, namely, a criterion to single out what is in fact beneficial to individuals. See, for instance, where he states: Something is for someone's good if it is what that person would want for herself, as she actually is, insofar as she is fully knowledgeable and experienced and unreservedly concerned for herself, Darwall, Welfare and Rational Care, p. 31, This is presented, given that any informed-desire standard can serve as a plausible criterion of welfare. Moreover, this criterion does resemble his analysis of welfare quoted above. Admittedly, it is not always easy to determine the distinction between analysing x and suggesting a criterion for what counts as x. But in Darwal
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Accounting for the normativity in terms of what I have referred to as his careproviso raises an interesting issue: should we regard welfare as normative when we need, to formulate the analysis of it in terms of a condition? Or should we say that it has merely conditional normativity? This might be a mere terminological quibble, but I suspect it is not. Consider the distinction between a belief on a condition (e.g, that there is tiger in my living room, given that I see it with my own eyes, and a conditional belief e.g, that if there is a tiger in my living room, then I will believe I am in danger, I thank Rabinowicz for reminding me of this analogy, whereas the former is not one that I have unless the condition is met, the latter is a belief, it is just not a categorical one. Now, it might be replied that this suggests that we should rather formulate the analysans in analogy with a conditional belief. Thus, in, say, the Eva Braun example we wo
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Accounting for the normativity in terms of what I have referred to as his "careproviso" raises an interesting issue: should we regard welfare as normative when we need, to formulate the analysis of it in terms of a condition? Or should we say that it has merely conditional normativity? This might be a mere terminological quibble, but I suspect it is not. Consider the distinction between "a belief on a condition" (e.g., that there is tiger in my living room, given that I see it with my own eyes), and a "conditional belief" (e.g., that if there is a tiger in my living room, then I will believe I am in danger) (I thank Rabinowicz for reminding me of this analogy); whereas the former is not one that I have unless the condition is met, the latter is a belief - it is just not a categorical one. Now, it might be replied that this suggests that we should rather formulate the analysans in analogy with a conditional belief. Thus, in, say, the Eva Braun example we would get something like the following lines: If you care for Hitler, then you ought to favour Eva Braun (for Hitler's sake). However, as mentioned before, if we introduce the "attitude (care)-clause" in order to secure the normativity of the consequent, I would rule this out for the reasons mentioned in the main text. I side with those who think that reasons must be attitude-given. If this is not what is behind the "conditional form," then I suspect the disagreement between an FAP advocate and someone offering this kind of analysis may well boil down to a substantive disagreement about what reasons there are. I do not want to exclude that there are such "conditional, values." But consenting to this is consistent with there being values in a stronger sense requiring a categorical analysans, which is what I try to deliver.
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An alternative approach to this issue would be to ask the persisting person the following question: Would you not at least accept that if you want to do everything that can be done for x's sake, you ought to favour O? I owe this informal suggestion to Margaret Gilbert. Cf. also Darwall's Welfare and Rational Care. An anonymous reviewer for The Journal of Ethics also expressed a similar point. These suggestions are worth considering. However, whereas these proposals regard (personal) value as normatively conditional on a person's attitudes wants and cares for, my suggestion sets out from the idea that what we have reasons to do is not necessarily a matter of what attitudes we have
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An alternative approach to this issue would be to ask the persisting person the following question: Would you not at least accept that if you want to do everything that can be done for x's sake, you ought to favour O? I owe this informal suggestion to Margaret Gilbert. Cf. also Darwall's Welfare and Rational Care. An anonymous reviewer for The Journal of Ethics also expressed a similar point. These suggestions are worth considering. However, whereas these proposals regard (personal) value as normatively conditional on a person's attitudes (wants and cares for...), my suggestion sets out from the idea that what we have reasons to do is not necessarily a matter of what attitudes we have.
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This work has developed as a result of a series of conversations over the years with Wlodek Rabinowicz, to whom I am deeply indebted. Comments by David Aim, Dan Egonsson, and Michael Zimmerman have also helped me a great deal. An earlier version was presented at a workshop at SCASSS (Uppsala, and I wish to thank the workshop members for useful comments, in particular David Bengtsson, John Broome, Johan Bränmark, Krister Bykvist, Erik Carlsson, Sven Danielsson, Margaret Gilbert, Jonas Olson, Howard Sobel, and Daniel Svensson. Thanks also to the audience members who attended my talk at Stevens Point, University of Wisconsin, in particular Michael Stocker, and later at ECAP Lissabon, in particular Graham Oddie, Gianfranco Pellegrino, and John Skorupski. Kind invitations from the University of Stirling and the University of Aberdeen were followed, by stimulating discussions, for which I am especially grateful to Peter Baumann, Michael Brady, Rowan Cruft, Adrian Haddock, and Alan Mi
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This work has developed as a result of a series of conversations over the years with Wlodek Rabinowicz, to whom I am deeply indebted. Comments by David Aim, Dan Egonsson, and Michael Zimmerman have also helped me a great deal. An earlier version was presented at a workshop at SCASSS (Uppsala), and I wish to thank the workshop members for useful comments, in particular David Bengtsson, John Broome, Johan Bränmark, Krister Bykvist, Erik Carlsson, Sven Danielsson, Margaret Gilbert, Jonas Olson, Howard Sobel, and Daniel Svensson. Thanks also to the audience members who attended my talk at Stevens Point, University of Wisconsin, in particular Michael Stocker, and later at ECAP (Lissabon), in particular Graham Oddie, Gianfranco Pellegrino, and John Skorupski. Kind invitations from the University of Stirling and the University of Aberdeen were followed, by stimulating discussions, for which I am especially grateful to Peter Baumann, Michael Brady, Rowan Cruft, Adrian Haddock, and Alan Miller. Finally, I am indebted to three anonymous referees for The Journal of Ethics for useful comments. The work on this paper was supported by a research grant from The Bank of Sweden Tercentenary Foundation.
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