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I believe Sander has made it impossible (and rightfully so) to ignore those consequences-although I am more persuaded by his critics on the merits of the question of what those consequences are in fact.
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For seven years I served as the Faculty Director of the AnBryce Scholarship Program at New York University Law School, which has done precisely that, and now enrolls approximately ten low-SES Scholars a year with full-tuition remission and programmatic support.
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Many of the nondisabled drivers who pass by the space while circling the parking lot in search of a place to park may be tempted to think that they would have an easier time finding a space if the space had not been reserved. Although eliminating the space would have only a minuscule effect on the average parking search for nondisabled driv ers, the cumulative cost perceived by each passing driver is likely to exceed the true cost simply because people have a difficult time thinking about small probability events.
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"Relatively well" can be in relation to the elite school's usual LSAT admissions range, in relation to the LSAT scores of other graduates of the same college (reported by LSAC Report Form on the same form that reports the candidate's LSAT score), or in relation to what one might expect from the candidate given her socioeconomic background as reflected in her application
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"Relatively well" can be in relation to the elite school's usual LSAT admissions range, in relation to the LSAT scores of other graduates of the same college (reported by LSAC Report Form on the same form that reports the candidate's LSAT score), or in relation to what one might expect from the candidate given her socioeconomic background as reflected in her application.
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The deterrence problem is one of the critiques of plans like the Texas Ten Percent plan- it rewards students who are at the top of weaker schools, and punishes those who take on tougher curricula and competition at stronger schools but fall outside the top ten percent of the class.
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The deterrence problem is one of the critiques of plans like the Texas Ten Percent plan- it rewards students who are at the top of weaker schools, and punishes those who take on tougher curricula and competition at stronger schools but fall outside the top ten percent of the class.
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Grade inflation at top feeder schools is hardly a secret.
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It is important to note that there are two components to this problem: the applicant pool and the admissions decision.
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[C]hanges in admission criteria designed to broaden college access for low-income students, such as eliminating the SAT filter or guaranteeing admission to top-performing students, will not alter the socioeconomic composition of college campuses unless the applicant pool is changed.")
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[C]hanges in admission criteria designed to broaden college access for low-income students, such as eliminating the SAT filter or guaranteeing admission to top-performing students, will not alter the socioeconomic composition of college campuses unless the applicant pool is changed.").
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Recent studies suggest that it is middle-class students, not low-income students, who are most likely to choose state flagships over highly selective private universities.
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They are the ones most likely to be crowded out by higher-SES students seeking bargains they don't need.
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Noting that, post 10% plan, 22% of top-ten students apply to the University of Texas from poor high schools, versus 44% from high schools in the top-decile of wealth, and puzzling over why, "despite the admission guarantee in effect since 1998, the socioeconomic composition of the applicant pool to [the University of Texas' two flagship campuses] has barely changed," and why Rice University, a more expensive private school, gets a higher share of low-income applicants than do the public flagships).
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The LSAC does not have socioeconomic information on LSAT-takers, which means that schools have no way of using LSAC searches to identify promising lower-SES candidates.
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Such ties might explain, for example, Supreme Court justices' rare but important deviations from the monopoly of a handful of top feeder law schools in their hiring of law clerks.
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Elite schools would also need to make sure that transfer students have the opportunity to join prestigious journals, and their placement offices would need to advocate for their transfer students in the all-important 2L summer-hiring and judicial-clerkship markets.
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Otherwise, the greater opportunities that come from elite-school attendance would be illusory for transfer students. And, of course, law schools using a transfer strategy would need to make their full array of financial-aid options available to transfer students.
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If one cares about comparisons of relative privilege within Sander's broad SES criteria, legacy preferences are more problematic in elite law schools with steady (or declining) prestige rankings than in those whose rankings have markedly risen in the years between the parent's graduation and the child's application
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If one cares about comparisons of relative privilege within Sander's broad SES criteria, legacy preferences are more problematic in elite law schools with steady (or declining) prestige rankings than in those whose rankings have markedly risen in the years between the parent's graduation and the child's application
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This sounds harsh, but I come from a middling-SES background myself and know first hand how strong the leveling tendencies within it can be.
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Rising tuition costs is an obvious "other development" that has tended to neutralize the class-diversifying effects of student loan availability and affirmative-action admissions policies
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Rising tuition costs is an obvious "other development" that has tended to neutralize the class-diversifying effects of student loan availability and affirmative-action admissions policies.
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The Free Application for Federal Financial Aid includes website's Q and A on financial independence states that law school applicants are deemed financially independent for purposes of federal loans
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The Free Application for Federal Financial Aid includes website's Q and A on financial independence states that law school applicants are deemed financially independent for purposes of federal loans.
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The FAFSA form questions on parental income and assets, and law schools require financial aid applicants to fill out the form.
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For purposes of school-provided grant-based aid, schools are free to make their own determinations of whether applicants are financially independent of their parents.
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Here the data are staggering. Espenshade & Radford report that 23% of graduates of fouryear public colleges graduate with too much debt to repay their loans by working as teachers, and 37% borrow too much to work as social workers.
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On the latter score, if female students are prescient in their decisionmaking, they may be aware that the high-income pot at the end of the elite-school rainbow-the "big law" job-requires much the same set of tradeoffs, for reasons of lack of time rather than lack of resources
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This is the case with NYU's AnBryce Program. As a matter of classification, the NYU Law School's AnBryce Program would likely be defined as merit-based rather than need-based. Eligibility is not based on "need" in the financial-aid-formula sense, but on personal and family socioeconomic considerations more broadly defined.
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