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The distinction I am drawing here between the possibility that law might be grounded in a moral principle and the possibility that it might be grounded in a constitutive norm is similar but not identical to the distinction Dworkin once drew between the possibility that law might be grounded in concurrent morality and the possibility that it might be grounded in conventional morality. Dworkin, supra note 11, at 53
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