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Volumn 29, Issue 1, 1999, Pages 32-61

Popper's Critique of Scientific Socialism, or Carnap and His Co-Workers

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EID: 84997942081     PISSN: 00483931     EISSN: None     Source Type: Journal    
DOI: 10.1177/004839319902900102     Document Type: Article
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    • See, (London: Routledge), 33. Popper has elsewhere described his relationship with socialism as follows.
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    • told me that he became a university professor only because he was unable to work as a school teacher outside of Austria and had to seek employment on the basis of his published book.
    • Popper, incidentally, told me that he became a university professor only because he was unable to work as a school teacher outside of Austria and had to seek employment on the basis of his published book.
    • Popper, incidentally
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    • In what follows, unless otherwise indicated, are to letters in The Karl Popper Archives, Box 282, file 24.
    • In what follows, all references to Popper's correspondence with Carnap, unless otherwise indicated, are to letters in The Karl Popper Archives, Box 282, file 24.
    • all references to Popper's correspondence with Carnap
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    • aims at predicting the future course of economic and power-political developments
    • Popper argued that historicism was a reaction to the problem of change, and he regarded it as implicit in any theory which, like Marx's, (Popper, The Open Society, p. 83).
    • The superstition that Popper is referring to here is historicism-or the belief that the course of history is predetermined. Popper argued that historicism was a reaction to the problem of change, and he regarded it as implicit in any theory which, like Marx's, “aims at predicting the future course of economic and power-political developments” (Popper, The Open Society, vol. ii, p. 83).
    • The superstition that Popper is referring to here is historicism-or the belief that the course of history is predetermined. , vol.2
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    • But I would imagine that even Carnap may have sensed the irony when Popper went on to say Popper
    • But I would imagine that even Carnap may have sensed the irony when Popper went on to say: Popper, The Open Society, vol. ii, pp. 235-6.
    • The Open Society , vol.2 , pp. 235-236
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    • difference in emphasis
    • 27 May. Aside from this qualitative difference, Carnap sees a in their attitudes toward socialization, with Carnap estimating its usefulness “in a certain given situation more highly” and Popper putting “more weight… on the danger involved.” Carnap also sees a difference in their views regarding “the first aim of Socialism”
    • Carnap to Popper, 27 May 1947. Aside from this qualitative difference, Carnap sees a “difference in emphasis” in their attitudes toward socialization, with Carnap estimating its usefulness “in a certain given situation more highly” and Popper putting “more weight… on the danger involved.” Carnap also sees a difference in their views regarding “the first aim of Socialism”:
    • (1947) Carnap to Popper
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    • that the Socialistic movement in Vienna was distinguished by being less dogmatic and based upon scientific analysis of the actual situation to a higher degree than most of the other Socialistic movements in European countries
    • (Carnap to Popper, 27 May). And this, I think, is ironic. Carnap believes that emotional appeal and a religious attitude are necessary for the success of socialism. But he is trying to say that socialism need not be as dogmatic and unscientific as Popper suggests. Popper, however, had himself experienced the socialist movement in Vienna, and he found it too dogmatic and bureaucratic for his taste. So if socialism was really less dogmatic and more scientific in Vienna, then that only makes matters worse.
    • Though Carnap does say that he had the impression from Neurath “that the Socialistic movement in Vienna was distinguished by being less dogmatic and based upon scientific analysis of the actual situation to a higher degree than most of the other Socialistic movements in European countries” (Carnap to Popper, 27 May 1947). And this, I think, is ironic. Carnap believes that emotional appeal and a religious attitude are necessary for the success of socialism. But he is trying to say that socialism need not be as dogmatic and unscientific as Popper suggests. Popper, however, had himself experienced the socialist movement in Vienna, and he found it too dogmatic and bureaucratic for his taste. So if socialism was really less dogmatic and more scientific in Vienna, then that only makes matters worse.
    • (1947) Though Carnap does say that he had the impression from Neurath
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    • The Demarcation between Science and Metaphysics
    • See Popper, Unended Quest, 89. edited by P. A. Schilpp (La Salle, IL: Open Court), 183. Popper, incidentally, told me that he and Carnap constantly discussed these issues during this vacation.
    • See Popper, Unended Quest, 89. Popper also refers to this vacation in “The Demarcation between Science and Metaphysics,” in The Philosophy of Rudolf Carnap, edited by P. A. Schilpp (La Salle, IL: Open Court, 1963), 183. Popper, incidentally, told me that he and Carnap constantly discussed these issues during this vacation.
    • (1963) Popper also refers to this vacation in in The Philosophy of Rudolf Carnap
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    • Über Protokollsätze
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    • quite the central role in the development of my views which he ascribes to them
    • Carnap, for whatever reason, did not always acknowledge Popper's influence, and in the end wrote that Popper's ideas did not play (Rudolf Carnap, “Replies and Systematic Expositions,” in The Philosophy of Rudolf Carnap, 880).
    • But I do not wish to leave the wrong impression. Carnap, for whatever reason, did not always acknowledge Popper's influence, and in the end wrote that Popper's ideas did not play “quite the central role in the development of my views which he ascribes to them” (Rudolf Carnap, “Replies and Systematic Expositions,” in The Philosophy of Rudolf Carnap, 880).
    • But I do not wish to leave the wrong impression.
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    • With the outbreak of the war and Neurath's death in England some year's later, the movement lost its cohesion
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    • “With the outbreak of the war and Neurath's death in England some year's later, the movement lost its cohesion” (A. J. Ayer, ed., Logical Positivism [New York: Free Press, 1959], 7).
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    • Sociology and Physicalism
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    • Which is the true geometry
    • So it is, perhaps, contre Poincaré's claim that the geometry we use is a matter of convention and not of truth, that the question is an empirical question and is to be decided by observation and measurement-given, of course, the conventional stipulation of a coordinating definition of the metric. (See Hans Reichenbach, “The Philosophical Significance of the Theory of Relativity,” in Albert Einstein: Philosopher-Scientist, edited by P. A. Schilpp [La Salle, IL: Open Court, ], 297). For what we have here is Carnap's distinction between the inside and the outside of the framework (see Rudolf Carnap, “Empiricism, Semantics, and Ontology,” Revue Internationale de Philosophie 4 [1950]: 20-40). It is, in this light, at least interesting that Einstein, in response to the question “Do you consider true what Reichenbach has here asserted?” writes: “I can answer only with Pilate's famous question: ‘What is truth?’ ” (Albert Einstein: Philosopher-Scientist, 676).
    • So it is, perhaps, not too surprising that Reichenbach insists, contre Poincaré's claim that the geometry we use is a matter of convention and not of truth, that the question “Which is the true geometry” is an empirical question and is to be decided by observation and measurement-given, of course, the conventional stipulation of a coordinating definition of the metric. (See Hans Reichenbach, “The Philosophical Significance of the Theory of Relativity,” in Albert Einstein: Philosopher-Scientist, edited by P. A. Schilpp [La Salle, IL: Open Court, 1949], 297). For what we have here is Carnap's distinction between the inside and the outside of the framework (see Rudolf Carnap, “Empiricism, Semantics, and Ontology,” Revue Internationale de Philosophie 4 [1950]: 20-40). It is, in this light, at least interesting that Einstein, in response to the question “Do you consider true what Reichenbach has here asserted?” writes: “I can answer only with Pilate's famous question: ‘What is truth?’ ” (Albert Einstein: Philosopher-Scientist, 676).
    • (1949) not too surprising that Reichenbach insists
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    • Whereas Popper piled argument upon argument in his criticism of positivism, Wittgenstein preferred to remain aloof.
    • The difference here pertains to their appeal to argument. Whereas Popper piled argument upon argument in his criticism of positivism, Wittgenstein preferred to remain aloof.
    • The difference here pertains to their appeal to argument.
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    • unless otherwise indicated, are to letters collected in the University of Chicago's Archives of the Unified Science Movement.
    • References to Neurath's correspondence with Carnap, unless otherwise indicated, are to letters collected in the University of Chicago's Archives of the Unified Science Movement.
    • References to Neurath's correspondence with Carnap
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    • Intellectual Autobiography
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    • See Carnap, “Intellectual Autobiography,” 22-4.
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    • The Open Society and the Democratic State.
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