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Optimally, double coding requires two different people independently coding the same general algorithm using two different statistical packages and then making sure that the output matches. This is a time-consuming and expensive safeguard, but it can detect most errors before they are published. This tests whether the logic of the algorithm is implemented correctly and helps find errors in the logic itself.
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Transparency is the best way to curtail errors. For example, Professor Sander makes all of his programs and data available on his website, as I also have done for this Revision.
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