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From the distinction above made between self-love, and the several particular principles or affections in our nature, we may see how good ground there was for that assertion, maintained by the several ancient schools of philosophy against the Epicureans, namely, that virtue is to be pursued as an end, eligible in and for itself. For, if there be any principles or affections in the mind of man distinct from self-love, that the things those principles tend towards, or that the objects of those affections are, each of them, in themselves eligible, to be pursued upon its own account, and to be rested in as an end, is implied in the very idea of such principle or affection. JOSEPH BUTLER, Preface to FIFTEEN SERMONS PREACHED AT THE ROLLS CHAPEL AND A DISSERTATION OF THE NATURE OF VIRTUE 15, ¶ 42 (T.A. Roberts ed., 1970) (1726). In the next sentence Butler restricts this claim to "natural" affections. Id.
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Although the historically predominant view of Mill's quantity-quality distinction accuses him of falling into inconsistency, he has had a few defenders. I have already mentioned interpreters who resolve the first problem by attributing to Mill only a weaker form of hedonism; among the problems with this approach is that it does not address the second problem, as my proposal does. See supra note 39 and accompanying text (discussing other authors' findings of Mill's weaker form of hedonism). My reading also differs from other "friendly" readings of Mill of which I am aware. Ernest Sosa takes pleasures superior in quality to be on that account more pleasant - and takes this to solve the second problem as well as the first - but does so by understanding qualitative differences to be very large quantitative differences; my account keeps quantity and quality distinct. But see Ernest Sosa, Mill's Utilitarianism, in MILL's UTILITARIANISM: TEXT AND CRITICISM 154, 164 (James M. Smith & Ernest Sosa eds., 1969). Dahl also takes qualitatively superior pleasures to be more pleasant. But he maintains that Mill would be involved in no inconsistency in denying that the greatest pleasure is always the best.
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