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Volumn 34, Issue 1, 2003, Pages 23-48

'Knowing as we are known' in confessions 10 and other philosophical, Augustinian and Christian obedience to the Delphic Gnothi Seauton from socrates to modernity

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EID: 61449331628     PISSN: 00945323     EISSN: 21537917     Source Type: Journal    
DOI: 10.5840/augstudies20033413     Document Type: Article
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