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Volumn 4, Issue 1-2, 2000, Pages 115-135

The role of rights in practical reasoning: "Rights" Versus "Needs

Author keywords

Individualism; Liberalism; Need; Rights

Indexed keywords


EID: 22044432952     PISSN: 13824554     EISSN: 15728609     Source Type: Journal    
DOI: 10.1023/a:1009860320069     Document Type: Article
Times cited : (40)

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    • Brain Barry believes, I think mistakenly, that this instrumental sense of "need" is the only sense. He says: "Whenever someone says 'Xis needed' it always makes sense (though it may be pedantic in some contexts) to ask what purpose it is needed for." From this he concludes that political philosophers need not concern themselves particularly with the concept ofneed as such, "for it is.derivative and the only interesting questions arise in connection with the ends" [Political Argument (London: Routledge, 1965), pp. 48-49].
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    • This congruence will fail, however, if you and I are engaged in an essentially competitive struggle: for then not interfering with you may seem a way of undermining rather than promoting the successful exercise of my rights
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    • Glendon asserts that Locke repudiated "the idea of the human person as "naturally" situated within and constituted through relationships of care and dependency" (Glendon, Rights Talk, p. 70.) But a philosopher who begins his discussion of civil society with the following passage
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    • God having made Man such a Creature, that, in his own Judgment, it was not good for him to be alone, put him under strong Obligations of Necessity, Convenience, and Inclination to drive him into Society, as well as fitted him with Understanding and Language to continue and enjoy it. The first Society was between man and Wife, which gave beginning to that between Parents and Children;.(Locke, Two Treatises of Government, II, Section 77, pp. 318-319)
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    • referring for example to Locke's emphasis on the priority of need over individual property rights in Two Treatises, op. cit., I, Section 42 and II, Section 25, and to Rawls's insistence in A Theory of Justice, op. cit., pp. 64, 88 and 270ff. that the determination of a basic structure by principles that respect everyone's interest in fair access to primary goods has priority over particular allocations and even over the decision as to whether there is to be private property in a whole range of resources.


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