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Volumn 64, Issue 4, 1996, Pages 1763-1782

Youth perspectives on lawyers' ethics: A report on seven interviews

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EID: 1842525712     PISSN: 0015704X     EISSN: None     Source Type: Journal    
DOI: None     Document Type: Review
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  • 3
    • 0011467927 scopus 로고
    • See, e.g., Gerald P. López, Rebellious Lawyering: One Chicano's Vision of Progressive Law Practice (1992) (discussing lawyering for social change); Anthony V. Alfieri, Reconstructive Poverty Law Practice: Learning Lessons of Client Narrative, 100 Yale L.J. 2107, 2119-21 (1991) (suggesting that traditional poverty law practice needs to be updated); Phyllis Goldfarb, Beyond Cut Flowers: Developing a Clinical Perspective on Critical Legal Theory, 43 Hastings L.J. 717 (1992) (relating clinical and critical legal theories).
    • (1992) Rebellious Lawyering: One Chicano's Vision of Progressive Law Practice
    • López, G.P.1
  • 4
    • 84902733428 scopus 로고
    • Reconstructive Poverty Law Practice: Learning Lessons of Client Narrative
    • See, e.g., Gerald P. López, Rebellious Lawyering: One Chicano's Vision of Progressive Law Practice (1992) (discussing lawyering for social change); Anthony V. Alfieri, Reconstructive Poverty Law Practice: Learning Lessons of Client Narrative, 100 Yale L.J. 2107, 2119-21 (1991) (suggesting that traditional poverty law practice needs to be updated); Phyllis Goldfarb, Beyond Cut Flowers: Developing a Clinical Perspective on Critical Legal Theory, 43 Hastings L.J. 717 (1992) (relating clinical and critical legal theories).
    • (1991) Yale L.J. , vol.100 , pp. 2107
    • Alfieri, A.V.1
  • 5
    • 1842485692 scopus 로고
    • Beyond Cut Flowers: Developing a Clinical Perspective on Critical Legal Theory
    • See, e.g., Gerald P. López, Rebellious Lawyering: One Chicano's Vision of Progressive Law Practice (1992) (discussing lawyering for social change); Anthony V. Alfieri, Reconstructive Poverty Law Practice: Learning Lessons of Client Narrative, 100 Yale L.J. 2107, 2119-21 (1991) (suggesting that traditional poverty law practice needs to be updated); Phyllis Goldfarb, Beyond Cut Flowers: Developing a Clinical Perspective on Critical Legal Theory, 43 Hastings L.J. 717 (1992) (relating clinical and critical legal theories).
    • (1992) Hastings L.J. , vol.43 , pp. 717
    • Goldfarb, P.1
  • 6
    • 1542463646 scopus 로고
    • Disabled Clients, Disabling Lawyers
    • See, e.g., Anthony V. Alfieri, Disabled Clients, Disabling Lawyers, 43 Hastings L.J. 769, 772-74 (1992) (discussing theoretical perspectives for representing disenfranchised clients); Marie Ashe, "Bad Mothers," "Good Lawyers," and "Legal Ethics," 81 Geo. L.J. 2533, 2533-36 (1993) (discussing legal ethics in representing bad parents); Gerald P. López, Reconceiving Civil Rights Practice: Seven Weeks in the Life of a Rebellious Collaboration, 77 Geo. L.J. 1603 (1989) (contending that the study of civil rights litigation requires renewed attention).
    • (1992) Hastings L.J. , vol.43 , pp. 769
    • Alfieri, A.V.1
  • 7
    • 21344485822 scopus 로고
    • "Bad Mothers," "Good Lawyers," and "Legal Ethics,"
    • See, e.g., Anthony V. Alfieri, Disabled Clients, Disabling Lawyers, 43 Hastings L.J. 769, 772-74 (1992) (discussing theoretical perspectives for representing disenfranchised clients); Marie Ashe, "Bad Mothers," "Good Lawyers," and "Legal Ethics," 81 Geo. L.J. 2533, 2533-36 (1993) (discussing legal ethics in representing bad parents); Gerald P. López, Reconceiving Civil Rights Practice: Seven Weeks in the Life of a Rebellious Collaboration, 77 Geo. L.J. 1603 (1989) (contending that the study of civil rights litigation requires renewed attention).
    • (1993) Geo. L.J. , vol.81 , pp. 2533
    • Ashe, M.1
  • 8
    • 0346494023 scopus 로고
    • Reconceiving Civil Rights Practice: Seven Weeks in the Life of a Rebellious Collaboration
    • See, e.g., Anthony V. Alfieri, Disabled Clients, Disabling Lawyers, 43 Hastings L.J. 769, 772-74 (1992) (discussing theoretical perspectives for representing disenfranchised clients); Marie Ashe, "Bad Mothers," "Good Lawyers," and "Legal Ethics," 81 Geo. L.J. 2533, 2533-36 (1993) (discussing legal ethics in representing bad parents); Gerald P. López, Reconceiving Civil Rights Practice: Seven Weeks in the Life of a Rebellious Collaboration, 77 Geo. L.J. 1603 (1989) (contending that the study of civil rights litigation requires renewed attention).
    • (1989) Geo. L.J. , vol.77 , pp. 1603
    • López, G.P.1
  • 9
    • 1842433374 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • For a thorough discussion of the centrality of the client's voice in effective representation of disempowered clients, see López, supra note 3, at 63-64
    • For a thorough discussion of the centrality of the client's voice in effective representation of disempowered clients, see López, supra note 3, at 63-64.
  • 10
    • 21344494351 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Foreword: Towards a Postmodern Ethics of Service
    • Anthony E. Cook, Foreword: Towards a Postmodern Ethics of Service, 81 Geo. L.J. 2457, 2458 (defining postmodern ethics as "that sphere of rich interaction between Self and Other")
    • Geo. L.J. , vol.81 , pp. 2457
    • Cook, A.E.1
  • 11
    • 1842537740 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Id. at 2473. Cook states: [T]he ethical duty of the postmodern public interest lawyer is one of service to the Other. The ethical duty requires a willingness to meet the oppressed where they are and to empty oneself of Self in preparation for serving the Other. The hope is that in the ethical encounter of Self and Other, given such critical emptying, the stories and experiences of the latter will be given a certain affirmation and credence they normally lack as marginalized narratives within a dominant discourse. I have called this orientation an "Ethic of Service" to "the least of these," one capable of infecting all relationships if permitted. As suggested earlier, an orientation to serve the least of these provides some answers to the pressing questions of whose story should be told and how it should be told. The ethic assumes a degree of foundationalism and normativity, but any transformative ethic must so assume. What marks this postmodern ethics off from many other ethical approaches is that it remains rooted, even at the level of articulating and applying norms, to a narrative tradition in which the experiences of the Other inform and shape the norms in the particularities of context. Id.
    • Geo. L.J. , pp. 2473
  • 12
    • 1842537738 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Id. at 2473. Cook states: [T]he ethical duty of the postmodern public interest lawyer is one of service to the Other. The ethical duty requires a willingness to meet the oppressed where they are and to empty oneself of Self in preparation for serving the Other. The hope is that in the ethical encounter of Self and Other, given such critical emptying, the stories and experiences of the latter will be given a certain affirmation and credence they normally lack as marginalized narratives within a dominant discourse. I have called this orientation an "Ethic of Service" to "the least of these," one capable of infecting all relationships if permitted. As suggested earlier, an orientation to serve the least of these provides some answers to the pressing questions of whose story should be told and how it should be told. The ethic assumes a degree of foundationalism and normativity, but any transformative ethic must so assume. What marks this postmodern ethics off from many other ethical approaches is that it remains rooted, even at the level of articulating and applying norms, to a narrative tradition in which the experiences of the Other inform and shape the norms in the particularities of context. Id.
    • Geo. L.J. , vol.81 , pp. 2457
  • 13
    • 21344485029 scopus 로고
    • The Ethic of Care as an Ethic for Lawyers
    • See Stephen Ellmann, The Ethic of Care as an Ethic for Lawyers, 81 Geo. L.J. 2665, 2693-2712 (1993) (describing how a caring lawyer should represent her clients); see also Cook, supra note 6, at 2471 (commenting on Ellmann). Cook comments: It is possible that Ellman's approach is the most for which a postmodern ethic can hope. Its normativity is fluid rather than fixed, and contextual rather than transcendent. It requires the ethicist to grapple not with abstract precepts and norms but with the lived experiences of those affected by the decision. Thus, personal factors of self-care may outweigh the concerns of care for others when thrown into the balance. Each situation is different, each balancing different, and each decision must ultimately rest on its own ethical bottom. The ethic of care can guide and inspire, but it cannot determine or command. Id.
    • (1993) Geo. L.J. , vol.81 , pp. 2665
    • Ellmann, S.1
  • 14
    • 21344485029 scopus 로고
    • See Stephen Ellmann, The Ethic of Care as an Ethic for Lawyers, 81 Geo. L.J. 2665, 2693-2712 (1993) (describing how a caring lawyer should represent her clients); see also Cook, supra note 6, at 2471 (commenting on Ellmann). Cook comments: It is possible that Ellman's approach is the most for which a postmodern ethic can hope. Its normativity is fluid rather than fixed, and contextual rather than transcendent. It requires the ethicist to grapple not with abstract precepts and norms but with the lived experiences of those affected by the decision. Thus, personal factors of self-care may outweigh the concerns of care for others when thrown into the balance. Each situation is different, each balancing different, and each decision must ultimately rest on its own ethical bottom. The ethic of care can guide and inspire, but it cannot determine or command. Id.
    • (1993) Geo. L.J. , vol.81 , pp. 2665
  • 15
    • 21344485029 scopus 로고
    • See Cook, supra note 3, at 2473. Cook notes: What marks this postmodern ethics off from many other ethical approaches is that it remains rooted, even at the level of articulating and applying norms, to a narrative tradition in which the experiences of the Other inform and shape the norms in the particularities of context. This ethics thus resists the dangers of abstraction that are endemic to normative ethical structures and even some empirical ones that, like utilitarianism or law and economics, distort experience by pigeon-holing it into some formalistic calculus of what people are thought to desire. Id.
    • (1993) Geo. L.J. , vol.81 , pp. 2665
  • 16
    • 0347124439 scopus 로고
    • Paradox, Piece-Work, and Patience
    • I am not the first to look for a closer relationship with clients. See, e.g., Goldfarb, supra note 3, at 717-21 (proposing that critical legal theory would overcome many of the obstacles it faces if it was connected to clinical legal education and the contextuality and real life issues of practice inherent in clinical programs); López, supra, note 3, at 44-56 (advocating partnerships between clients and their attorneys); Lucie White, Paradox, Piece-Work, and Patience, 43 Hastings L.J. 853, 859 (1992). Professor White states: Professor Alfieri's essay [Alfieri, supra note 3] teaches the powerful lesson that we lawyers cannot "empower" impoverished communities by fitting clients into our own strategic or theoretical schemes. Rather, we must ally with embattled communities and seek ways to support people's efforts to empower themselves. Yet the essay also enacts the lesson it purports to teach. It shows that, in their impatience to theorize their own practice, lawyer-theorists like Professor Alfieri risk usurping from poor people and their advocates the power to name the very forms of violence that pose the most formidable barriers to their empowerment. Id.
    • (1992) Hastings L.J. , vol.43 , pp. 853
    • White, L.1
  • 17
    • 0347124439 scopus 로고
    • I am not the first to look for a closer relationship with clients. See, e.g., Goldfarb, supra note 3, at 717-21 (proposing that critical legal theory would overcome many of the obstacles it faces if it was connected to clinical legal education and the contextuality and real life issues of practice inherent in clinical programs); López, supra, note 3, at 44-56 (advocating partnerships between clients and their attorneys); Lucie White, Paradox, Piece-Work, and Patience, 43 Hastings L.J. 853, 859 (1992). Professor White states: Professor Alfieri's essay [Alfieri, supra note 3] teaches the powerful lesson that we lawyers cannot "empower" impoverished communities by fitting clients into our own strategic or theoretical schemes. Rather, we must ally with embattled communities and seek ways to support people's efforts to empower themselves. Yet the essay also enacts the lesson it purports to teach. It shows that, in their impatience to theorize their own practice, lawyer-theorists like Professor Alfieri risk usurping from poor people and their advocates the power to name the very forms of violence that pose the most formidable barriers to their empowerment. Id.
    • (1992) Hastings L.J. , vol.43 , pp. 853
  • 18
    • 1842485718 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 249 (McKinney 1983 & Supp. 1996); see also Jerome E. v. Commissioner of Social Servs., 593 N.Y.S.2d 205, 209 (App. Div. 1993) (stating that court has discretion to appoint a law guardian in surrender proceeding)
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 249 (McKinney 1983 & Supp. 1996); see also Jerome E. v. Commissioner of Social Servs., 593 N.Y.S.2d 205, 209 (App. Div. 1993) (stating that court has discretion to appoint a law guardian in surrender proceeding).
  • 19
    • 1842590151 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 1055 (McKinney 1983 & Supp. 1996); N.Y. Soc. Serv. Law § 392 (McKinney 1992 & Supp. 1996)
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 1055 (McKinney 1983 & Supp. 1996); N.Y. Soc. Serv. Law § 392 (McKinney 1992 & Supp. 1996).
  • 20
    • 1842433377 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • See N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 249 cmt. (McKinney Supp. 1996) ("Law Guardians are appointed to protect the interests of the children they represent."). The Legal Aid Society, which trains most law guardians in New York City, instructs attorneys to counsel their clients carefully and to advocate for their wishes
    • See N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 249 cmt. (McKinney Supp. 1996) ("Law Guardians are appointed to protect the interests of the children they represent."). The Legal Aid Society, which trains most law guardians in New York City, instructs attorneys to counsel their clients carefully and to advocate for their wishes.
  • 21
    • 1842485719 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • This point of view is López's starling point and the basis for his seeking better partnerships between attorneys and clients. López, supra note 3, at 1-10
    • This point of view is López's starling point and the basis for his seeking better partnerships between attorneys and clients. López, supra note 3, at 1-10.
  • 22
    • 1842485721 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • See López, supra note 3, at 23-28
    • See López, supra note 3, at 23-28.
  • 23
    • 1842537767 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Jonah," in New York, N.Y. (Aug. 7, 1995). I have changed each of the names of the interviewees, with their consent, to protect their privacy
    • Interview with "Jonah," in New York, N.Y. (Aug. 7, 1995). I have changed each of the names of the interviewees, with their consent, to protect their privacy.
  • 24
    • 1842485722 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Curtis," in New York, N.Y. (Oct. 15, 1995)
    • Interview with "Curtis," in New York, N.Y. (Oct. 15, 1995).
  • 25
    • 1842590182 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Sandra," in New York, N.Y. (Aug. 8, 1995)
    • Interview with "Sandra," in New York, N.Y. (Aug. 8, 1995).
  • 26
    • 1842537766 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Neil," in New York, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 1995)
    • Interview with "Neil," in New York, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 1995).
  • 27
    • 1842590179 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Julio," in New York, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 1995)
    • Interview with "Julio," in New York, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 1995).
  • 28
    • 1842433407 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Raymond," in New York, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 1995)
    • Interview with "Raymond," in New York, N.Y. (Sept. 7, 1995).
  • 29
    • 1842590178 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • N.Y. Soc. Serv. Law § 392 (McKinney 1992 & Supp. 1996)
    • N.Y. Soc. Serv. Law § 392 (McKinney 1992 & Supp. 1996).
  • 30
    • 1842433375 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Id.
    • Id.
  • 31
    • 1842590150 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 1055 (McKinney 1992 & Supp. 1996)
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 1055 (McKinney 1992 & Supp. 1996).
  • 32
    • 1842485720 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 249 (McKinney 1983 & Supp. 1996)
    • N.Y. Jud. Law (Family Court Act) § 249 (McKinney 1983 & Supp. 1996).
  • 33
    • 1842433376 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • See, e.g., In re Audrey "PP," 535 N.Y.S.2d 136, 136-37 (App. Div. 1988) (finding the appointment of a law guardian to be "essential")
    • See, e.g., In re Audrey "PP," 535 N.Y.S.2d 136, 136-37 (App. Div. 1988) (finding the appointment of a law guardian to be "essential").
  • 34
    • 1842433373 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • In re Tyriek W., 652 N.E.2d 168, 171 (N.Y. 1995)
    • In re Tyriek W., 652 N.E.2d 168, 171 (N.Y. 1995).
  • 35
    • 1842485717 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Interview with "Bruce," in New York, N.Y. (Oct. 13, 1995)
    • Interview with "Bruce," in New York, N.Y. (Oct. 13, 1995).
  • 36
    • 1842433405 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • Curtis never had a conflict issue in his case, but he came up with the hypothetical that if he had the same lawyer as someone he had a fight with in a group home, he would be concerned about proper representation
    • Curtis never had a conflict issue in his case, but he came up with the hypothetical that if he had the same lawyer as someone he had a fight with in a group home, he would be concerned about proper representation.
  • 37
    • 1842590149 scopus 로고    scopus 로고
    • See Palmer v. Cuomo, 503 N.Y.S.2d 20, 22 (App. Div. 1986) (requiring foster care providers to offer training for independent living, and enjoining the providers from discharging youths prior to the age of 21)
    • See Palmer v. Cuomo, 503 N.Y.S.2d 20, 22 (App. Div. 1986) (requiring foster care providers to offer training for independent living, and enjoining the providers from discharging youths prior to the age of 21).


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