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Volumn 4, Issue 3, 2000, Pages 283-304

Does communitarianism require individual independence?

Author keywords

Autonomy; Communitarianism; Communitarians; Community; Individual independence; Individuals; Inner citadel; Liberalism; Social constitution

Indexed keywords


EID: 11344256669     PISSN: 13824554     EISSN: 15728609     Source Type: Journal    
DOI: 10.1023/a:1009869922259     Document Type: Article
Times cited : (13)

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    • Philips provides the lengthiest and most historically informed discussion, looking at early America (pp. 24-80).
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    • medieval Europe (pp. 81-121), and ancient Greece (pp. 122-148). He provides a good distillation of his analysis on pp. 149-156.
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    • At one point Taylor seems to recognize this tension. He tells us that "an articulation can be wrong, and yet it shapes what it is wrong about" (C. Taylor, Human Agency and Language: Philosophical Papers 1 (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1985), p. 38
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    • see also Sandel, Liberalism and the Limits of Justice, pp. 11-12. One might try to argue, in this way, that although liberalism misdescribes our society, that very misdescription has contributed to the current make-up of society, so that it would not be surprising if it displayed individualist aspects. This, though, is to admit that it now (at least partially) accurately describes us. The same can be said of Sandel: "In our public life, we are more entangled but less attached than ever before. It is as though the unencumbered self presupposed by the liberal ethic had begun to become true" (M. Sandel, "The Political Theory of the Procedural Republic," in R. Reich (ed.), The Power of Public Ideas (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1988), pp. 109-121, here p. 120).
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    • In my "Communitarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," I call this the "genetic particular social constitution" thesis.
    • In my "Communitarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," I call this the "genetic particular social constitution" thesis.
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    • This is largely undefended in Sandel's earlier work. In "The Procedural Republic and the Unencumbered Self," for example, he claims that the unencumbered self cannot be a member of a constitutive community (see p. 87). This makes sense, but even with the assumption that we are unencumbered (or, at least, see ourselves as such), only leads to the conclusion that constitutive communities cannot survive, not that civil society cannot survive. His argument in Democracy's Discontent, however, is somewhat different. There he seems to claim less that liberalism presents a portrait of the self that is ultimately untenable, and more that a liberal political order itself is untenable because of the vision of the self it requires (see, for example, p. 262). Although both aspects are present throughout his work, their importance and prevalence in his thinking seems to have been reversed.
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    • (esp. pp. 145-148) and pp. 201-202. For injustice as disobedience to authority, see Whose Justice? Which Rationality?, p. 157.
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    • This is implicit throughout his discussions of strong evaluation and personhood. For an interesting statement on these matters, see in J. Tully (ed.), Cambridge: Cambridge University Press
    • This is implicit throughout his discussions of strong evaluation and personhood. For an interesting statement on these matters, see C. Taylor, "Replies," in J. Tully (ed.), Philosophy in the Age of Pluralism: The Philosophy of Charles Taylor in Question (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994), pp. 213-257
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    • the relevant pages here are pp. 249-253. Both Kymlicka and Weinstock (to whom the just-mentioned pages reply) argue that liberalism provides better for self-respect and strong-evaluation than communitarianism does. See D. M. Weinstock, "The Political Theory of Strong Evaluation," in J. Tully (ed.) Philosophy in the Age of Pluralism: The Philosophy of Charles Taylor in Question, pp. 171-193.
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    • This indicates a third reason to suspect that communitarianism relies on an independent aspect of persons. "Human beings, like the members of all other species, have a specific nature; and that nature is such that they have certain aims and goals, such that they move by nature towards a specific telos" (MacIntyre, After Virtue, p. 148, first italics added). His invocation of the Aristotelian concept of telos and the "specific nature" that has the telos as its goal pervades MacIntyre's work (see also Whose Justice? Which Rationality?, p. 130 and Three Rival Versions of Moral Enquiry, p. 66). When discussing the Aristotelianism he favors, he notes that: "Within that teleological scheme there is a fundamental contrast between man-as-he-happens-to-be and man-as-he-could-be-if-he- realized-his-essential- nature" (After Virtue: Second Edition, p. 52). This "essential nature" talk sounds decidedly divine - and not social - in origin [but see W. Lund, "Communitarian Politics and the Problem of Equality," Political Research Quarterly 46 (1993), pp. 577-600, esp. pp. 583-584].
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    • Again, see footnote 19.
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    • 308, 312-313 and 317, This paragraph owes much to Kymlicka's discussion in "Liberalism and Communi- tarianism," p. 193. Again, for related discussions, see
    • This paragraph owes much to Kymlicka's discussion in "Liberalism and Communi- tarianism," p. 193. Again, for related discussions, see Friedman, "The Politics of Communitarianism," pp. 303, 308, 312-313 and 317
    • The Politics of Communitarianism , pp. 30-33
    • Friedman1
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    • MacIntyre, After Virtue, p. 216; MacIntyre's discussion of"characters" early in After Virtue supports the argument from description. He uses "character" as a technical term to refer to cases where "role and personality fuse in a more specific way than general; in the case of a character the possibilities of action are defined in a more limited way than in general. . . . characters merge what usually is thought to belong to the individual man or woman and what is usually thought to belong to social roles." He claims that "One of the key differences between cultures is in the extent to which roles are characters" (p. 28). It would seem that characters are the ultimate communitarian persons: their entire way of being is nothing other than what society determines their roles to be. Interestingly, he recognizes that this varies between cultures. Moreover, he is careful to recognize that any individual who is supposedly nothing other than his roles may in fact be at odds with those roles (on p. 29, he talks of an ordained priest who goes through the ministerial motions but whose own beliefs are not in line with those of the church). If one can be at odds with one's roles, one is not one's roles.
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    • Communitarianism and the social construction of morality
    • here 51.
    • H. Haste, "Communitarianism and the Social Construction of Morality," Journal of Moral Education 25 (1996), pp. 47-55, here 51.
    • (1996) Journal of Moral Education , vol.25 , pp. 47-55
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    • For whether this ability is necessary for persons in Taylor's account, see
    • For whether this ability is necessary for persons in Taylor's account, see Weinstock, "The Political Theory of Strong Evaluation," pp. 174-176;
    • The Political Theory of Strong Evaluation , pp. 174-176
    • Weinstock1
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    • Recall MacIntyre's endorsement of what he sees in "ancient and medieval worlds, as in many other premodern societies": "the individual is identified and constituted in and through certain of his roles, those roles which bind the individual to the communities in and through which alone specifically human goods are to be attained; I confront the world as a member of this family, this household, this clan, this tribe, this city, this nation, this kingdom. There is no 'I' apart from these." Social ties "constitute the given of my life" (MacIntyre, After Virtue, pp. 172 and 220).
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    • For his explicit statement against determinism, see
    • For his explicit statement against determinism, see A. MacIntyre, "Determinism," Mind 66(261) (1957), pp. 28-41.
    • (1957) Determinism, Mind , vol.66 , Issue.261 , pp. 28-41
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    • In my "Communitarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," "Communi- tarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," I call this the "sustaining general social constitution" thesis. See also
    • In my "Communitarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," "Communi- tarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," I call this the "sustaining general social constitution" thesis. See also Miller's discussion, in Nature, Justice, and Rights in Aristotle's Politics, of the "natural priority of the polis" (pp. 45-56).
    • Miller's Discussion, in Nature, Justice, and Rights in Aristotle's Politics, of the Natural Priority of the Polis , pp. 45-56
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    • To fit it into MacIntyre's talk of "narratives," "characters," and "roles," I would call this "role-determinism." In this sort of determinism, one's actions are determined by one's roles where these are in turn determined by one's narratives. Indeed, MacIntyre may accept this, claiming that it "obliterates" the distinction between rational (and hence "free") action and determined action. See MacIntyre, "Determinism," pp. 40 and 35.
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    • Oxford: Oxford University Press, especially and 47-52. In brief, Kymlicka argues that (1) certain paradigmatic liberals did not hold such a view and (2) such a view is absurd, so to attribute it to anyone who doesn't explicitly state it is too uncharitable. The view is absurd as it leads to the conclusion that if I keep choosing I am made better off - even if my choices "undo" each other.
    • W. Kymlicka, Liberalism, Community and Culture (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1989), especially pp. 15-19 and 47-52. In brief, Kymlicka argues that (1) certain paradigmatic liberals did not hold such a view and (2) such a view is absurd, so to attribute it to anyone who doesn't explicitly state it is too uncharitable. The view is absurd as it leads to the conclusion that if I keep choosing I am made better off - even if my choices "undo" each other.
    • (1989) Liberalism, Community and Culture , pp. 15-19
    • Kymlicka, W.1
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    • As with MacIntyre, there is a way out for Taylor, but it leads to the same conclusions we were led to with reference to MacIntyre: either the communitarian accepts role-determinism or he allows for independence of individuals. The argument would run parallel, substituting "discursive web" for "narrative."
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    • This paragraph borrows from my "Communitarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," σV.
    • This paragraph borrows from my "Communitarianism, 'Social Constitution,' and Autonomy," σV.
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    • This requires that she leave all community; if she simply leaves one community for another, she can have her personhood retained. It is not the case that her personhood would necessarily be fundamentally altered by changing communities - it may be that both communities sustain personhood in the same way.
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    • One commentator writes: "(Holmes, The Anatomy of Antiliberalis
    • One commentator writes: "communitarians ⋯seem to have no politics" (Holmes, The Anatomy of Antiliberalis, p. 9).
    • Communitarians ⋯seem to Have No Politics , pp. 9
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    • Indeed, MacIntyre has said "I give my political loyalty to no program" [in Nozick, Danto, Rortty, Cavell, Maclntyre, and Kuhn, tr. R. Crocitto Chicago: University of Chicago Press
    • Indeed, MacIntyre has said "I give my political loyalty to no program" [in G. Borradori, The American Philosopher: Conversations with Quine, Davidson, Putnam, Nozick, Danto, Rortty, Cavell, Maclntyre, and Kuhn, tr. R. Crocitto (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1994), p. 151].
    • (1994) The American Philosopher: Conversations with Quine, Davidson, Putnam , pp. 15-19
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    • This is not to say that a more full-bodied agenda is not complicated. Indeed, communitarianism has been used to argue for various political actions - some of which are mutually contradictory. For example, while Taylor and Sandel have argued (see
    • This is not to say that a more full-bodied agenda is not complicated. Indeed, communitarianism has been used to argue for various political actions - some of which are mutually contradictory. For example, while Taylor and Sandel have argued (see Taylor, The Ethics of Authenticity, pp. 112-118
    • The Ethics of Authenticity , pp. 112-118
    • Taylor1
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    • decentralization of power (!) so as to make smaller governing bodies which people can identify with, others use communitarianism to argue for a more powerful central government. United States President Bill Clinton, for example, appealed to community to justify nationalizing health care. So too, in an appearance on the MacNeil-Lehrer News- hour (11/15/94), Richard Rodriguez encouraged Americans to identify themselves with the nation rather than seeing themselves as atomistic entities. Like Taylor, he believes that liberal individualism is the cause of social problems.
    • Sandel, "The Procedural Republic and the Unencumbered Self," pp. 91-95) for decentralization of power (!) so as to make smaller governing bodies which people can identify with, others use communitarianism to argue for a more powerful central government. United States President Bill Clinton, for example, appealed to community to justify nationalizing health care. So too, in an appearance on the MacNeil-Lehrer News- hour (11/15/94), Richard Rodriguez encouraged Americans to identify themselves with the nation rather than seeing themselves as atomistic entities. Like Taylor, he believes that liberal individualism is the cause of social problems. Unlike Taylor but like Clinton, he believes we can identify with the nation as a whole to combat those problems.
    • The Procedural Republic and the Unencumbered Self , pp. 91-95
    • Sandel1


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