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Volumn 80, Issue 9, 1999, Pages 707-710

How Can We Best Serve LEP Students? A Reply to Nicholas Meier and Stephen Krashen

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    • The extent to which advocates of bilingual education have replaced reason and facts with myth is easily demonstrated in the extreme case: How much English is learned in a 100% Spanish environment? How can there be any question that there is an adverse effect on learning English from the excessive use of some other language in school? The key policy question, which advocates of bilingual education have avoided for a generation, is to determine the point at which too much Spanish at school becomes harmful. The best answer we have to date comes from only two studies: the Ramirez study and the El Paso study. And the answer seems to be any point above 30%.
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    • The factors Meier cites that supposedly differentiate Canadian from American classrooms have long been cited by bilingual education advocates in opposition to SEI. However, no evidence that any of these factors affects learning English has ever been put forth. Moreover, the studies I cited in my Kappan article consistently show the superiority of SEI over bilingual education programs and disprove these hypotheses.
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    • Ramirez' point is that LE students should not be moved to the mainstream abruptly, because a gradual transition characterized the one program showing continuing progress. There is no comparative discussion of LE, EE, or SEI.
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    • The public final report appeared two years after the completion of the report that the U.S. Department of Education buried.
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    • In my original article I discussed research that showed that SEI students are more likely to attend college than LE students.
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    • Seattle's SEI program, which my article cited as the only program model that meets the requirements of California's Proposition 227, was challenged in court by advocates of bilingual education programs, who withdrew their lawsuit in the face of overwhelming evidence portending certain defeat in court.
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    • Beware of Clintonesque hairsplitting of definitions. SEI, EE, and LE constitute a continuum with regard to the use of English in the bilingual classroom. Regardless of what you choose to call it, the best program choice lies much closer to the SEI end of that continuum.
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    • Teresa P. et al. v. Berkeley Unified School District, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, San Francisco, 1988. Krashen testified against the Berkeley program; Berkeley won.
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    • I actually wish the district had used about 117 minutes of Spanish, for that would have replicated Ramirez' EE results. However, 90 minutes, if correct, comes close enough. Both the Ramirez study and the El Paso study show superior learning with about 70% of teacher talk in English.
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    • Krashen also overlooks the point I made in my original article that no valid method exists to identify a child's "primary language," except in the obvious monolingual case.
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    • note
    • It's worth repeating here. Using about 30% Spanish, EE programs produce the same positive results in English as do SEI programs using considerably less Spanish. Since all these programs get the same outcomes, are they not allowed under Proposition 227? The advantage of EE programs over SEI programs using less Spanish is that they also teach Spanish. LE programs develop Spanish at the cost of English performance, but this is not the case for EE programs. They teach English as well as any program model and develop Spanish in addition. If EE is the program of choice, how can it be accommodated under Proposition 227?


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